My Computer DIED

nun69

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...my laptop FINALLY gave in and is pretty much toast...luckily DH can get the stuff off the hard drive...I am on my other desktop {which I DO NOT like because it turns my back to the kids}...so here is my question...

if you had to buy a new laptop would you go with a MAC? I amseriously thinking about getting a MAC and think I may have convinced DH to let me get one but I want to know that you LOVE it before I invest....
 
I :wub::wub::wub: my Mac. Seriously, do it! It's a big change at first but oh so worth it. :thumbup:
 
Yes. Hands down 100% yes. I will NEVER go back to PC. We're thinking about getting dueling macbooks and we JUST bought this imac in November!
 
so answer me this...can I take the fonts from my laptop and put them on the MAC? like my Darcy fonts and other fonts I have downloaded? is TRUE FONT, TRUE FONT whether it is a PC or MAC?
 
Add me to the list of Mac lovers. :) I really, really love my MacBook Pro! And, they're so pretty too. :)
 
ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!
 
ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!

my DH says exactly this!!! I read it to him word for word :) he also says if I get a MAC I don't get any tech support :p
 
ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!

I disagree with this completely..respectfully of course :)

I paid $1500 for my imac with 4 gigs of ram and a 22" screen stock. It has a terabyte of hard drive, a high end LCD screen AND I never get the blue screen of death. I paid 2 grand for my last PC less than 2 years ago and it has 2 gigs of ram a 500 gig hard drive, I had to buy a brand new monitor for $400 that STILL isn't comparable to my Mac monitor and it was DEAD within a year..we had it on life support and I could barely work for 8 months before I bought the mac.
 
my DH says exactly this!!! I read it to him word for word :) he also says if I get a MAC I don't get any tech support :p

Mac tech support is FREE for ANY mac hardware or apple software issue. You go online and schedule an appt for THEM to call YOU and they call (amazing) on time!

I've done this more than once. OR you can pay the $100 a year and take your mac to the store and they will sit there with you as long as you need and teach you anything about the Mac OR any program.

Microsoft can't compare in tech support. At all. Something broke on my OS within 2 weeks of installing it and the wanted to charge me to even TALK to tech support.
 
i do agree that mac is expensive, I'm just saying you DO get what you pay for with mac, in my experience.
 
My next lappy will be a Mac..... I don't care how long it takes. Macs are great for graphics programs and since that is what I primarily do, then buying one makes sense. :)
 
ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!

I haven't compared laptops because I'll be upgrading to a new desktop next month, but I compared a desktop from Dell and the 27" iMac. 8GB RAM, 2 TB HD, and that beautiful big screen... it is actually very close in price to a comparable Dell PC since I need a NICE monitor.

I personally say go Mac - I am soon! I HATE my PC. HATE! lol I'm really tired of replacing PCs every 18-24 months.
 
ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!

But you don't buy a Mac just for the hardware, you buy it for the experience you get from the OS and the Mac-only applications. The OS was the reason I switched WAY WAY more than the hardware.

And really, if you get a laptop, it's kind of a moot point since all laptops are limited in the amount of upgrades you can really do. Although I've replaced the memory and my hard drive (for one twice as big) in my MacBookPro so it's certainly do-able. I've had this laptop for almost 3 years and it still runs as fast as it did day one. I do agree that you're more limited with an iMac than you would be with a desktop PC but those things last a lot longer. My grandma has an original iMac (like the ones that came in multiple colors?) and it still runs. :D

No one is going to deny that Macs aren't more expensive. You just have to decide if the extra cost is worth it to you. I can say for me, I've gotten MORE than my money's worth for sure which I wouldn't have said about the HP desktop or Toshiba laptop I had in the past.
 
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I love my Dell laptop. I have an XPS M1530. It's over 2 years old and I haven't had one tiny bit of trouble. I spent about $2000 for this one.

I'm totally open to a Mac though, and would consider getting one next time, as long as this one still runs and I can use it until I learn the Mac.
 
Mac tech support is FREE for ANY mac hardware or apple software issue. You go online and schedule an appt for THEM to call YOU and they call (amazing) on time!

I've done this more than once. OR you can pay the $100 a year and take your mac to the store and they will sit there with you as long as you need and teach you anything about the Mac OR any program.

Microsoft can't compare in tech support. At all. Something broke on my OS within 2 weeks of installing it and the wanted to charge me to even TALK to tech support.

Totally agree with this. :thumbup:

In November, the power cord on my laptop ended had started to fray so I took it in to the Genius Bar along with my computer to see if I could possibly get it replaced. I fully expected I'd have to pay for a new cord since my computer is long out of warranty. But I mentioned that my battery wasn't holding a charge as well as when I got it and after running a battery test, not only did they replace the cord but they replaced the battery as well for FREE. That was $200 worth of equipment for an out of warranty laptop. I was seriously shocked but very impressed as well. :thumbup:
 
Really? I still have my computer from 2001 and this computer I bought in 2007 I think? My sister went through several computers when I had just the one computer. I love my Hewlett Packard though so I dont think I would ever buy a Mac

AMEN..I've gone through 5 computers in 5 years
 
I agree!! I my PC!!!

ok - everyone has strong opinions on this topic, so as respectfully as possible - i say PC!

you'll spend TWICE as much for comparable computing capability on a MAC. To run the high-end programs we all like to use as digi scrappers and photographers, you'll need a mac book Pro.

You can easily upgrade and expand PC systems, too. Can't imagine you'd want to pay Apple prices for all of your accessories. There are some super sexy high-end PCs that you can pick up for comparable (even lower) prices than a Mac. Not to mention you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Either way - you're getting what you pay for, so just see what the same money would buy you in the PC world.

Just my $.02!
 
ok girls...I told my DH what all you girls said {cause I really want a MAC :) } and he says "Do they know I am trying to talk you OUT of a MAC:p"....

so his question is:
1. For you girls that own a MAC laptop, what kind of desktop do you own?

2. What makes a MAC better than a PC? {I guess for this question, tell me why the graphics, OS, etc is better than a PC...I am going to mainly use it for digi scrapping and maybe eventually have my own photography busniess so I would use it for photo editing as well...}
 
ok girls...I told my DH what all you girls said {cause I really want a MAC :) } and he says "Do they know I am trying to talk you OUT of a MAC:p"....

so his question is:
1. For you girls that own a MAC laptop, what kind of desktop do you own?

2. What makes a MAC better than a PC? {I guess for this question, tell me why the graphics, OS, etc is better than a PC...I am going to mainly use it for digi scrapping and maybe eventually have my own photography busniess so I would use it for photo editing as well...}

1. I don't have a desktop anymore and haven't for I think like, 5 years now? The one I used to have was custom built. My DH has an old desktop that he custom built but I never use it.

2. I guess the best way I'd explain it is that the Mac takes everything you already do but it streamlines it so it's easier/faster/simpler and prettier than Windows.

An example: taking a screenshot. In Windows (and this is based on XP, I've never used Vista or 7), it clips the image to the clipboard and you have to copy and paste it into an image editor and then name and save the file to get the screenshot. But in Snow Leopard, it does all of that for you. All I have to do is hit the keyboard shortcut, drag a box over what I want to capture and it saves it as a jpg to the desktop, complete with the file name including the date and time of the capture.

Or in Finder (the Mac windows explorer), all PSD files automatically show thumbnails - no hacks needed. You can display thumbnail images as big as 512px, which means if I want to get a closer look at the elements in a kit, I can just drag the image size slider bar at the bottom of the window until it's at the size I want. Then I can reduce the size back down to see all the files in the kit again. Super quick and super easy. Or if you have PDFs you can scroll through the pages of the PDF within the image thumbnail or using Quick Look or Preview - no need to open Acrobat Reader or anything.

The whole system is based on tons of those type of little things - features where you actually think, oh that's useful!, which is not something I ever really remember thinking about Windows. It's just feels like it's much more about the user experience where as Windows is more utilitarian, if that makes sense.

Oh and just so you know, Apple has a Government discounted store as well. If you go to main store homepage, there's a link in the left sidebar for it. The discounts are the same as the education store but for computers I think it's like $100-200 off depending on the original price.
 
Well, I am a huge Mac fan and I switched a little over a year ago. Right now, I currently own a Mac Pro desktop, a MacBook Pro, and an iPhone. I started with the desktop. Honestly, I switched because Vista drove me crazy.

I had a little Dell desktop running XP since 2005. That little guy was a workhorse but was slow and I wanted to upgrade. So, I went out and got a brand new FULLY LOADED HP desktop running Vista. That thing was a problem from DAY 1. First of all, Microsoft's operating systems are HUGE memory hogs. So even though I bought a brand new computer loaded with RAM, a massive HD, and a screaming Nvidia graphics card, the darn thing was still slow as hell. If I tried running PS and Illustrator at the same time, it would just freeze. Within about 3 months of buying that machine, I couldn't take it anymore and got a Mac Pro.

I was a PC user my entire life, so this isn't about trying to be cool or jump on some sort of bandwagon. PCs just wore me out. In my opinion, the operating system design is incredibly unstable, unsafe (viruses) and slow. You just don't have these problems with Macs.

Yes, Macs are expensive, but there is a reason for that. They are well designed, completely intuitive and they just work. Plus, you don't have to run a huge antivirus program in the background to keep your computer safe.

So, what are some of the tangible differences?

1. They are fast...and I mean screaming fast. As I stated in the other thread, start up on my huge Mac Pro is about 30-40 seconds tops. Same with my MacBook Pro. The new iMacs are supposed to be crazy fast.

2. They are stable. They never freeze up. No blue screen of death. They don't get viruses and don't need antivirus. You can run multiple software programs at the same time without even so much as a hiccup. This to me is huge. Have you ever been working on a layout and all of sudden PS stops working? Your computer seizes up and you have to reboot...only to lose all of your work? That NEVER happens on a Mac. I can run PS, Illustrator, Bridge, Lightroom, Entourage, Messenger, Firefox, iTunes all at the same time no problem. Your software is not competing with the operating system for resources.

3. I don't have to run any sort of antivirus in the background which slows a computer (that means a faster computer and no subscription fees). Also, Macs come with a program called Time Machine which backs up your HD to another drive. I had to used this feature when I accidentally deleted a database in Lightroom and it worked like a charm.

4. Support rocks! Every computer, whether it is a PC or Mac, can have hardware failures. When I got my new Mac Pro, I had an issue with kernel panics. I took it to the Genius Bar and they discovered that I had a bad graphics card. It happens. They replaced it and within 24 hours, I had my computer back, good as new, free of charge. If you don't have a Mac Store near you, they also have service through authorized service agents throughout the country. So, you always have access to support. The standard warranty is a year, but you can pay extra to get extended coverage.

5. Mobile Me - this is a paid service through Mac that I really like. You can sync your contacts and calendar across all of your devices (important for me since I have 3)...and you get an iDisk which is a killer feature. Basically, I can just drag a file to my iDisk and then ANYONE ANYWHERE can access it (you can password protect it, if need be).

I could go on and on but I think you get the picture. You just have to decide what is most important to you. As a paper and digi designer, I had to have a powerful, fast and reliable machine. Mac fits the bill much better than PC. Period. Yes, they are expensive, but as someone said earlier, you really do get what you pay for.

Susan
 
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What Susan said.

The icing on the cake for me was when I brought home the huge box (I got a 27 in iMac) it was so simple to set up. All I had to do was plug it in and turn it on and I was off and running. And it only took 30 seconds to turn on.

I mentioned this in the other thread but my mac only cost $200 more than my 17in loaded Dell laptop. I did not get a macbook this time because we were replacing our desktop from 2005. In a few years we will replace the Dell laptop with a macbook.
 
teehee! I think Susan needs to start working for Apple. :D She makes me want to buy a Mac.

I have no opinion on the matter. ;) I use a PC and always have.
 
THIS will be my next laptop...

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$1249 16" with extended life 9 cell battery
4 GB RAM
500GB HD - OR - there are solid state HD options (virtually no failure on solid state drives)
1Ghz quad-core processor

or you could get a 15" Macbook Pro
with 4GB RAM
and only 320GB HD
and a slower processor
for $1999.

Sorry guys, I think its a lot of marketing. And since no one yet using Windows 7 has spoken up (I'm dying to upgrade) I don't think its fair to compare XPS to Snow Leopard. I've heard great things about Win7 at work, many of my peers (who NEVER went to Vista) have jumped right into Win7 and the LOVE it.
 
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Sorry....but it is most DEFINITELY not all marketing. My husband runs Windows 7 on his laptop and has many of the same of the problems, particularly with running the latest Office suite. He doesn't have a choice...it is his work laptop.

I just gave a laundry list of differences. Trust me, if I could buy a cheaper PC that ran as well as my Mac, I would. I am not a sucker and would never buy a product that didn't serve my professional needs just because of "marketing". I worked on a PC my ENTIRE life so I know both platforms very well.

It isn't a competition and it doesn't say anything about you as a person if you have a preference one way or another. I've tried both, extensively, and for me and my purposes, Mac is better.

Susan
 
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Sorry guys, I think its all marketing. And since no one yet using Windows 7 has spoken up (I'm dying to upgrade) I don't think its fair to compare XPS to Snow Leopard. I've heard great things about Win7 at work, many of my peers (who NEVER went to Vista) have jumped right into Win7 and the LOVE it.

Them are fightin' words. :D

No but seriously, I think it's a bit unfair to chalk it all up to just marketing hype. I grew up very much a PC user. My dad has worked for companies like HP, Compaq and now IBM. So to say I was pretty firmly entrenched in the PC world would be an understatement. I never hated Windows and I still don't. I think it works (for the most part :D) for what it was designed to do. I think it's great that they finally seem to have put out an upgrade that people are excited about because SO many people will never ever even consider switching. They should be able to use a computer that has features they love.

My choice to switch was not based on a fancy ad or sleek packaging. It was based on my experience using Macs in school and in the jobs I had. I just liked the way Macs did things more than Windows. That's not to say one is necessarily better than the other (although I think one is :D), just that they are different methods of doing things and what works for some people may not work for everyone. That's ok. I just know that I'm happier with this computer than I ever was with any of my PCs. And not just because I love the Mac vs PC ads. :D
 
I think it does come down to personal preference. I made my decision to switch based on previous experiences. Saying one is better than the other is like saying Coke is better than Pepsi. It all depends on what works for you.
 
2. They are stable. They never freeze up. No blue screen of death. They don't get viruses and don't need antivirus. You can run multiple software programs at the same time without even so much as a hiccup. This to me is huge. Have you ever been working on a layout and all of sudden PS stops working? Your computer seizes up and you have to reboot...only to lose all of your work? That NEVER happens on a Mac. I can run PS, Illustrator, Bridge, Lightroom, Entourage, Messenger, Firefox, iTunes all at the same time no problem. Your software is not competing with the operating system for resources.

3. I don't have to run any sort of antivirus in the background which slows a computer (that means a faster computer and no subscription fees). Also, Macs come with a program called Time Machine which backs up your HD to another drive. I had to used this feature when I accidentally deleted a database in Lightroom and it worked like a charm.

Susan

I dream of convincing my hubby one day to let me get a Mac...

While I think that Macs are great... I used one when I was a realtor and LOVED it for design... I just want to say that yes, these two points are true... but just a little warning from my geeky computer nerd of a husband... the reason there aren't viruses for Macs is because PCs are so popular and a virus would affect more people, therefore just aren't written for Macs, ... the more Macs become popular though the more you'll need to be on the lookout for them. One day those super mean virus writers might decide to write one for Macs. Once one of those meanies write one that works then there will be several more to follow and then even Mac users will have to run an antivirus software too, big sigh...

total bummer about your computer Angie...
 
but just a little warning from my geeky computer nerd of a husband... the reason there aren't viruses for Macs is because PCs are so popular and a virus would affect more people, therefore just aren't written for Macs, ... the more Macs become popular though the more you'll need to be on the lookout for them. One day those super mean virus writers might decide to write one for Macs. Once one of those meanies write one that works then there will be several more to follow and then even Mac users will have to run an antivirus software too, big sigh...

This is very true. Macs are a small segment of the personal computer market, so virus makers don't waste time on them. If Macs ever gained that much market share, you can bet that virus makers would target them much more. That said, Explorer is a veritable sink hole of security flaws and is easily compromised. Not sure the same can be said about Firefox or Safari.

Susan
 
wow this is a very interesting thread. I want a new laptop and just am on the fence which way to go and since the only reason I am replacing it is because I want to - I feel a little less pressured and can take the time to research what is best. Thanks everyone for your responses.
 
I adore my Mac!! I have a Macbook Pro and a 24" iMac! They are awesome!! You will NEVER want to use PC again if you switch over!
 
Screaming fast is right Susan..I counted this morning and my whole computer booted up in 22 seconds and photoshop just booted up in 8.
 
Well, I personally think that Mac's tech support is bar none!

My backlights went out on my iMac in September, and I simply made a phone appointment and they called me on time - ascertained the problem - and sent me the postage paid box to ship my iMac to them so they could replace the lights. I had it back within eight days. That is one reason that when I was in the market for a lappy - I went with Mac.

We have two iMacs, a Macbook Pro, and a g5 iMac. We will never go PC again. I also believe you get what you pay for. My PC cost me $1800 and I was always having problems with it - blue screen of death, missing dll files, slow running etc. With Mac, I don't ever have to worry about that and it is FAST! It only takes me 20-30 seconds to turn it on and then I am up and running.

I think it is much more stable as well. I haven't had any of my Macs crash on me yet - and my PC was crashing on me all the time.

I think you'll be very happy with a Mac if that's the way you go and I know you'll come to believe it is money well spent.
 
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