Radical Parenting

Tracyfish

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So I'm watching this show Radical Parenting on Discovery Fit & Health. Please tell me I'm not the only person who thinks freezing a child's cord and the placenta from their birth until they are older to plant it under a tree is a little weird?????

The same people also don't use any diapers....from birth...their kids were in little newborn underwear. I can't even imagine.
 
We would've done the placenta, but both times forgot to get it from the hospital with everything else that was going on...and never got it back. (but we also planted a tree with my mom's ashes after she died... yeah - we're weird like that.)
 
aww... some of my friends do that :) I couldn't because I had all c-sections and I don't have the patience for Elimination Communication, tho, we were pretty loose with our prefolds in the beginning because my babys' bottoms were always so super sensitive to paper diapers... Isaac was the worst I literally just held a washcloth over his peni$ because he had horrible rashes... they were so bad they'd bleed... those were a rough couple months until his bottom could handle being covered... sigh...
 
For awhile I was in a mommies group, and I kind of got nudged out of it because I was the only one who didn't do anything with my placenta... about half of them planted it, and the other half ate it (some cooked it and ate it that way, at a small dinner party on the child's first birthday, others got theirs dried and made into pill form for the mother to take like a vitamin).

There are also a couple of them who do elimination communication, but honestly, I'm fine with just diapering.

I do the homemade baby food, I wear Zach quite a bit (though, our carrier is cheap and uncomfortable), and we co-sleep, but the rest... it's just not up my alley.
 
It seemed for this family to just be symbolic. As it once helped the child grow, it will then help the tree grow.
 
Saving and planting I can handle....now grinding it up and eating it!!! :blink: :p

I *TRY* not to ever [question] other people's parenting styles....cause I know I do thing things that people think are crazy (like my 10 year old just got out of a 5 point harness and my 2.5 year old is still rear facing) and it really upsets me. Like just because I do something different then them I'm doing it wrong!!! :D :D

But yes there are some interesting parenting styles out there!!! :D
 
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I'm just curious why the whole placenta thing is on a parenting show... it has nothing to do with parenting :p
 
I guess this is exactly why I never understood the meaning of "natural parenting"... I mean those things don't define parenting to me... I understand "attachment parenting" because it's about doing attachment type things like co-sleeping and babywearing and extended nursing, child led solids and natural consequences instead of spanking... those are all parenting things/styles... but how someone diapers or what they wear or whether or not they have a natural birth has nothing to do with parenting... sorry... just dredging up some old feelings about mothering.com's forums LOL...

and I firmly believe that everyone chooses to do what they think is best for their child as far as parenting... I guess I just don't understand how a placenta or natural birth or cloth diapering defines parenting... they have nothing to do with parenting LOLOL

and maybe I just have issues with the name of the show... I mean... why is "natural parenting" considered radical... but stuff like strollers and cribs and stuff like that that are much more "modern" and not how things used to be back in the day... aren't considered "radical"

and I'm not upset... I'm just questioning because it just doesn't make sense to me... that the modern world considers old traditions as "radical" LOLOL
 
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A friend on Facebook did Elimination Communication with her son and posted something about it a year or so ago. :blink: My first reaction was to be judge-y because I didn't understand it. But, after some reading... it's a very valid form of caring for baby by non-diapering. Mothers in Africa don't use diapers of any kind (or underwear) and learn to read their baby's signs when they need to eliminate. A "communication" is there between mother and child. It speeds up toilet training and saves the cost, work, and garbage that diapering creates. I believe in the method. Unfortunately, I would never take the leap to do it myself... both of my kids had diaper-free "moments" but I could never do it consistently.

I actually think the placenta is pretty amazing! I would have liked to look at it, but I was so out of it and drugged after my babies were born via c-section it just wasn't a priority for me. I wouldn't eat it, but I would plant a tree over it. I'm weird like that though. :p
 
I guess this is exactly why I never understood the meaning of "natural parenting"... I mean those things don't define parenting to me... I understand "attachment parenting" because it's about doing attachment type things like co-sleeping and babywearing and extended nursing, child led solids and natural consequences instead of spanking... those are all parenting things/styles... but how someone diapers or what they wear or whether or not they have a natural birth has nothing to do with parenting... sorry... just dredging up some old feelings about mothering.com's forums LOL...

and I firmly believe that everyone chooses to do what they think is best for their child as far as parenting... I guess I just don't understand how a placenta or natural birth or cloth diapering defines parenting... they have nothing to do with parenting LOLOL

and maybe I just have issues with the name of the show... I mean... why is "natural parenting" considered radical... but stuff like strollers and cribs and stuff like that that are much more "modern" and not how things used to be back in the day... aren't considered "radical"

and I'm not upset... I'm just questioning because it just doesn't make sense to me... that the modern world considers old traditions as "radical" LOLOL

LOL I don't have a comment on parenting but Adam and I randomly saw some show about people preparing for the end of the world. Their reasons for it were a wee bit out there but I totally said to Adam at one point, "you know, if people from 100+ years ago saw this, it would have been normal to them." Because all it really had was people aiming to be more self sustainable with gardening or animals and preserving food and stuff. So crazy how we lose sight of that.
 
I guess I dont think it is weird just different. I did not do it but then I had three c-sections. I have heard of different things being done with the placenta including eating it.
 
I guess this is exactly why I never understood the meaning of "natural parenting"... I mean those things don't define parenting to me... I understand "attachment parenting" because it's about doing attachment type things like co-sleeping and babywearing and extended nursing, child led solids and natural consequences instead of spanking... those are all parenting things/styles... but how someone diapers or what they wear or whether or not they have a natural birth has nothing to do with parenting... sorry... just dredging up some old feelings about mothering.com's forums LOL...

and I firmly believe that everyone chooses to do what they think is best for their child as far as parenting... I guess I just don't understand how a placenta or natural birth or cloth diapering defines parenting... they have nothing to do with parenting LOLOL

and maybe I just have issues with the name of the show... I mean... why is "natural parenting" considered radical... but stuff like strollers and cribs and stuff like that that are much more "modern" and not how things used to be back in the day... aren't considered "radical"

and I'm not upset... I'm just questioning because it just doesn't make sense to me... that the modern world considers old traditions as "radical" LOLOL

I think that although these things don't define parenting some of them tend to give you an insight in to what kind of parent someone will be. Not as in whether they will be a good or bad parent but what type of approach they may take. I agree that these things shouldn't be considered 'radical' though. They are just old school, albeit very old school.



A friend on Facebook did Elimination Communication with her son and posted something about it a year or so ago. :blink: My first reaction was to be judge-y because I didn't understand it. But, after some reading... it's a very valid form of caring for baby by non-diapering. Mothers in Africa don't use diapers of any kind (or underwear) and learn to read their baby's signs when they need to eliminate. A "communication" is there between mother and child. It speeds up toilet training and saves the cost, work, and garbage that diapering creates. I believe in the method. Unfortunately, I would never take the leap to do it myself... both of my kids had diaper-free "moments" but I could never do it consistently.

I actually think the placenta is pretty amazing! I would have liked to look at it, but I was so out of it and drugged after my babies were born via c-section it just wasn't a priority for me. I wouldn't eat it, but I would plant a tree over it. I'm weird like that though. :p

I considered elimination training with my oldest. I decided that I just didn't want to deal with the mess if I missed the signal. LOL We used cloth though and I got berated and bashed by several for using cloth diapers (and baby-wearing and breastfeeding). I was called weird and strange and 'new age' (how funny is that one?) all for doing things that were perfectly natural for my grandmother's generation. In the end, what does it matter? I have some pretty awesome kids. :)

I saw my placenta after I had my first baby. It was nasty though. I had contracted an infection which had gotten in to the placenta and the placenta looked awful. That was the baby that I lost to an incompetent cervix though. I never saw what a healthy placenta would look like. I had my next two via c-section... and I was fine with that. In fact, I was HAPPY to have a c-section. Again, something I don't get... the same ones who talked about how crunchy, etc. I was also thought it was horrible I had a c-section because natural birth was the way to go. What?? LOL
 
Okay, if I had done a home birth, I would have considered saving the placenta to bury it under a new tree in the yard (or under a blueberry bush maybe because my yard is too small to add another tree to).... but eating it?!?!?! I've never heard of that, that is some kind of cannibalism in my opinion. And now I will be extremely cautious at every 1st birthday party my family attends, especially since everyone we know has a cook-out at birthday parties. Would you like the beef patty or the placenta patty... and do you want cheese on that? BLAH!

I've always wanted to do cloth diapers but the kids' dad wouldn't go for it. He thought it was too much work (even though I explained it's so easy and they're machine washable now).
 
Sherri I went through labor with my son only to find out he was to big for me to have him naturally (I really wanted to experience that and now I have no idea why!!! THE LABOR FRICKIN HURT!!!!) All because I thought after having my daughter via emergency c-section that I had missed out on some experience I thought I wanted to have. Um yea with my youngest I went to my first appt already planning on asking for a planned c-section. I had a date for him scheduled and I developed complications so he was born via emergency c-section as well. I do not really think the second c-section an emergency c-section I guess it may be considered that though because they had already broke my water and I had been in labor 19 hours (from what I can remember) and not progressed. At any rate I think your goal is to give birth to a healthy baby and if that is what is accomplished it should not matter how you accomplished it. I thought it did at the time but realized it really didn't to me anymore.
 
I didn't get to watch the whole show, but after the attachment/elimination/placenta parents there was a family that didn't agree with gender specification for their sons. In other words, they had dolls and trucks for them to play with and encouraged both.

I guess it was just showing how different people parent...but yeah I do think the "radical" term was a bit much. To each his own. :)
 
I had a homebirth, but wanted nothing to do with my placenta! LOL

I have friends who do EC, but it was never something I wanted to do... b/c I cloth diapered, and had too much fun with that. :)

Honestly, I know so many people who do those things... bury placenta, EC, homebirth, whatever else is considered "radical" that I can't say that I consider those things radical. Now, trying to raise your child "gender free" yes, I would consider that radical. Though I know a handful of parents who are pretty laid-back about their boys wanting to paint their nails, girls enjoying "boyish" things, etc, which is probably pretty good, I think. :)
 
Sherri I went through labor with my son only to find out he was to big for me to have him naturally (I really wanted to experience that and now I have no idea why!!! THE LABOR FRICKIN HURT!!!!) All because I thought after having my daughter via emergency c-section that I had missed out on some experience I thought I wanted to have. Um yea with my youngest I went to my first appt already planning on asking for a planned c-section. I had a date for him scheduled and I developed complications so he was born via emergency c-section as well. I do not really think the second c-section an emergency c-section I guess it may be considered that though because they had already broke my water and I had been in labor 19 hours (from what I can remember) and not progressed. At any rate I think your goal is to give birth to a healthy baby and if that is what is accomplished it should not matter how you accomplished it. I thought it did at the time but realized it really didn't to me anymore.

You're right, Labor HURTS! I went in to labor with my first but didn't really know it. I had a horrible, dull, back ache. I only realized after the fact that it was labor and it wasn't full blown labor really. My cervix had already dilated before the labor started. In fact, the cervix dilated, infection set in through the open cervix and then the infection caused the premature labor. Either way, my son wouldn't have survived.

Anyway... no labor with Caitrin. I went to a perinatologist with her but all he really did was place and remove the cerclage. The rest of the pregnancy was taken care of my by family practitioner. So, towards the end I developed some preeclampsia and I was feeling awful. My doctor was feeling baby' position during an exam and thought it felt funny so he did an xay and saw she was frank breach. He knew I'd probably need a c-section and he couldn't do it so he wanted my peri to do it. Well, my peri is in Joplin, an hour away, and I didn't want to be stuck there with no one being able to come and visit me (my grandma was in poor health and couldn't make that kind of trip and DH had to try to keep a normal work schedule). The peri suggested a local OB. I went to see him at 10 in the morning. He did an ultrasound and said "pack your bags, I'll take the baby at 4:30" and he sent me to the hospital. It wasn't an 'emergency' but it definitely wasn't planned. Turns out her cord was down between her legs by my cervix and had my water broke the cord would have prolapsed. Anyway, no labor... the surgery was easy on me and I was up walking a few hours after she was born. I went home before she was 40 hours old. She was born at 4:59 in the evening and I did spend 2 nights in the hospital but I got out bright and early after the second night. Easy, peasy.

With Declan (though we didn't know he was Declan because we had no idea whether we were having a boy or a girl) I opted for a repeat c-section. After a false alarm (no labor, they screwed up my due date and tried to take him almost 3 weeks early!) we had our c-section scheduled for Nov. 10th. Our choices were the 7th or the 10th and the 7th had been our first son's due date so I wanted to avoid that. My nephew, coincidentally, had also been born on the 7th (he was due a week after Tyler was due) so I also wanted to avoid Jacob having to share his birthday with a cousin. Anyway, 2 days before my scheduled section I woke up feeling like I had to use the potty. This was at 5:40 in the morning. By 6:00 I called my grandma because I really felt funny. At 6:20 I called my husband's job. He had to get a ride to work the night before because the battery was dead on our van. I wanted them to know he'd need a jump by whoever brought him home. I wasn't 100% sure I was in labor at this point but I had some greenish discharge and it was worrying me so I was going to go to the hospital regardless as soon as he got home. He was to get off work at 7 but his supervisor told him right when I called to get his butt outside and he'd take him home immediately. He got home around 6:45. After dropping Caitrin off at my grandma's we got to the hospital about 7:10. At some point between 6:20 when I called Sean's work and 6:45 when he got home I had transitioned into full blown labor. My contrax were 3 minutes apart lasting over a minute each time. I was in PAIN. The nurses just sort of tsk'd me and said I was 2 days early. I told them I was in labor and they blew it off. I was told they would watch the monitors for an hour and then call my doctor if I showed progress. Ten minutes later the nurse was back with two different shots of stuff to stop my labor and said my doctor was on his way. I was definitely in labor, hard labor, and likely ripping my cervix because this time my cerclage was still in. The peri felt it would be fine to leave it until my c-section and then remove it then. He didn't think I'd go in to labor and neither did I. LOL


As far as the gender thing... we've always encouraged our boy to play with dolls the same as he plays with trucks. He has painted his nails and I have some great blackmail pictures of him wearing his sister's dance tutu. ;) On the same note our girl had trucks and all the boy stuff back when she was the only child. That's how I was raised. My grandma always said that just as little girls grow to be mommies, little boys grow to be daddies and they need experience in nurturing form a young age too. Little girls also became mechanics and race car drivers just like little boys so they needed access to cars and trucks too. My first toy was a big plastic police car. My uncle gave it to me. I loved that thing. :) My second was a doll that I eventually cut all of the hair off and named Peeto and said it was a boy. :p
 
(like my 10 year old just got out of a 5 point harness and my 2.5 year old is still rear facing)

I had my son in a 5 pt harness til he was 6. The only reason we had to switch him out was he got too tall :) I just switched my DD (who's now 2) into a 5 pt harness front facing. We didn't want to buy a new convertible seat when we already had the 5 pt harness. She's loving it so far but never complained about being rear facing for so long.

As for the placenta - While I would never eat a placenta (and in some cultures, they do that for their own reasons), I did take the placentas for my two kids. In my Navajo culture, we bury the placenta on our homeland so that our children will grow up with their "roots" tied to the reservation. The father does the deed and there's a little ceremony involved.
 
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