I am soooo mad at my DD!

nun69

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for real...I asked her what kind of grades she got this quarter and she got 2 C's and 1 D......REALLY!!!!!!!!!! I mean I work full time, take care of practially all of them and I still managed to get 3 A's why can't she:cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing: Just burns me up!!!!!! DH says we need to quit paying her way to college and then maybe she would be a little more concerned about her grades!!! thanks for letting me vent....

BTW: she didn't take any harder classes than I did....
 
Before I read everything you said, my first thought was- "this girl needs to pay for her own classes and she will work harder." I'm sure she will eventually get it, but it must be frustrating right now.

Also, you rock for getting those A's. :)
 
If you make her pay, she'll just drop out...FYI. It was really hard for me to go to college just after HS. I had a great GPA in HS and flunked out my first semester at college, sometimes it's just hard being an adult of the sudden, KWIM?
 
I suggest having a talk with her and explaining in the future, if she doesn't get such and such a grade, you will not pay for the class. I joined the Guard so I could go to school, that's what they do. Makes sense to me, right?
 
I would be pissed too. I would give her the warning that if she make below whatever grade level that you will not pay and she will have to. SO like pay for fall semester but if the grades aren't up to par then you are done. Maybe she just needs to be scared straight. I know it is frustrating. Been there, done that. Hang in their Angie. You got a smart girl. Hopefully she will think this through and make the right decision. I had a hard time adjusting to college straight from HS too.
 
yeah Traci I totally feel yea and I managed one year of college, worked a year and then landed in the Navy for the next 20! And I know it is hard and she doesn't have her driver's license so I think maybe that gets her down, but she just doesn't seem to have the drive and I thought if I took classes at the same time as her that she would be a little more motivated, but I guess not. I don't want to be too hard on her because hey I never finished college, but I want her to be a little more motivated! Hoping that since she already picked all of her classes for all of next year and seems pretty excited about them, that she will start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

and thanks for letting me vent girls, that is what I LOVE about this place :)
 
Does she want a college degree? Is that a goal of hers? Maybe that needs to be the first discussion - how serious is she about college. Maybe she isn't ready - like you said it's a ton of money to waste on low/bad grades. And college is SO different than high school. You really do not learn how to study properly in HS, IMO.

My high-schooler got his first C and I'm making him re-take that semester next year. He has good grades, but I'm a bit scared of when he goes to college (he's a HS senior this coming year).
 
If you make her pay, she'll just drop out...FYI. It was really hard for me to go to college just after HS. I had a great GPA in HS and flunked out my first semester at college, sometimes it's just hard being an adult of the sudden, KWIM?

Exactly this...my parents felt my grades were too low after my first semester at community college and cut off payment. I had an aunt who helped me the following semester, but I did wind up dropping out. It was too much for me to handle at the time, for the exact reasons Traci said.
 
for real...I asked her what kind of grades she got this quarter and she got 2 C's and 1 D......REALLY!!!!!!!!!! I mean I work full time, take care of practially all of them and I still managed to get 3 A's why can't she:cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing: Just burns me up!!!!!! DH says we need to quit paying her way to college and then maybe she would be a little more concerned about her grades!!! thanks for letting me vent....

BTW: she didn't take any harder classes than I did....

Non-traditional students like yourself are usually a LOT more serious about their education than recent high school graduates.
 
I've got no words of wisdom for you, so HUGS, because being a parent is hard and we have to make those hard decisions. :(
Lane is going to be a Junior in HS this year and he'll be taking classes over because he didn't make the grades. He's upset about it, but you can only remind them so many times to do their dang homework!
 
College is such a HUGE transistion! Zak hasn't done nearly as well in college as he did in HS-but he did better his second semester than his first...I think it's a learning curve for kids who were used to breezing through HS, the buckle down mentality and self motivation that college takes can be tough to get used too...Keep your chin up and make sure your daughter knows what you expectations are!
 
I seriously told my Dad this for Father's Day after I got home from the homeschool convention a couple weeks ago

I have an awesome Dad, who worked hard for me to go to college... but after the first semester, he could tell it wasn't for me... he took me out to lunch one day and told me I didn't have to go to college if I didn't want to, but that I just needed to get a full-time job and insurance... seriously, that was the best thing my Dad ever did and I'm sooo very thankful he did. I got my first full-time job w/ insurance and became a successful employer w/o having to go to college... the only school I ended up doing was getting my Realtor's license... that was one week of classes and then testing...

and my therapist said this to me recently: "some people are really smart but college just isn't for them and they become successful even w/o a degree"

so I really think it's important to find out if she even wants to go to college, it might not be for her, maybe she'd do better in a tech school or something like that... ask her where she sees herself in 5-10 years... sometimes we just have to live life and learn through experience, rather than at a desk in a school... and I know you know that since you worked your butt off for 20 years :)
 
Heather you are so right and I was totally one of those people that college was not for me(of coarse I didn't think the military was either and little did I know I would spend 20 years doing it!). She does have her sights set on a 4 year college to transfer to in Fall 2013, so I think she really wants to stay in college, but I do think I will give her the option. Like my DH has told her "Sam, by the time I was your age I had already been in the Navy for a year"....I do think she is kinda sad that all of her friends are kind of disbursed throughout the state and she hasn't really made alot of friends in college because she has only taken 2 classes on campus, but since her classes next year need to be 3/4 of the time on campus, it may help her braoden her friendships :)
 
yes this. And I wound up never going back to college and I really regret it. :(

If you make her pay, she'll just drop out...FYI. It was really hard for me to go to college just after HS. I had a great GPA in HS and flunked out my first semester at college, sometimes it's just hard being an adult of the sudden, KWIM?
 
((hugs)) I don't blame you a bit for being frustrated.

My parents never offered to pay for any of my college...I had to cover it all myself. She's lucky that you have been able to help her. My 2 cents...a college can put a student on academic probation...maybe you all can sit down and have a talk about expectations...maybe a sort of financial probation. Give her a semester to bring up her grades or she'll have to find her own way to pay for it.
 
I know it took me from the time I was 18 until pretty much this last year (24-25) to actually stick at college for longer than a few weeks - I'm just about to finish my 3rd semester with hopefully 6 more to go
 
College can definitely be a big adjustment. I did great in college until life started getting in the way. I was living with my husband (though we weren't married at the time) and working 40 hours a week and playing tennis on the college team and it was all just too much. I burned out big time. I finished the semester strong with good grades but never went back after that. I signed up for some classes the semester after my daughter was born but never actually took them, I just ended up dropping them instead.
 
Im gonna go against the majority and say to me if she has passing grades for her first semester it would be good enough for me. Your daughter graduated high school and went immediately into college. I cannot tell you how many kids I know who have dropped out of high school or who do not even go to college...anyhow my advice if it was my child and this is coming from a totally different perspective so please dont take offense is to give her a little time to adjust to college life and being an adult and being out of high school. Tell her what you expect of her and find out if their is a reason she is receiving low grades? My sister once flunked a report she was supposed to do on Macbeth in college and she did the report on the story and the professor wanted it on the person or something like that? Her report was well written but she did not understand exactly what the teacher wanted and since it was not what the assignment was she failed that paper. Anyhow just thought Id give you a little to think about. She is not mychild kid and I know each parent has their own standards but mine were always do your best and if you can show me you did your best even if you failed the subject then that is all I can ask. My daughter who was always straight A did fail a couple classes. She just did not get them at all and no amount of help helped her get a good grade. I think one of them was economics or some government class. She was just horrible in that subject. After having three children who all learn differently and all of them have different capabilities (one of them being special ed for a good majority of the time he has been in school) I learned to not focus so much on the grades they received as much as if they were putting forth genuine effort and if they were learning something. Like just for instance my son Nickolas. He did horrible this year. It was very disappointing. I stayed on him all the time to do his homework and classwork and turn it in. Many times it was just forgetting to turn it in and the policy is if it is not turned in on time it does not count unless you are absent. But he can answer the questions asked in class and he knows the material he is being taught so he is learning. He is just not completing all the work. That has always been something he struggles with. My other son on the other hand always excelled in math. He was amazing at it. Always got straight A's but when it came time to write a report even in high school. it was like it was written by a little kid. He never exceled in writing or language arts. He could read and enjoyed reading but when it came to writing he just did not do well. Anyhow like I said it is just some thing to think about. I get why you are upset but like I said I would try to look at it and find out why she is getting lower grades and see if there is some underlying issue or what is going on and then tell her what your expectations of her are.
 
sorry that was so long but here is what I was basically trying to say. My son Matthew (the middle one who passed away) was good at math horrible at language arts. So for him say a C in laguage arts was great. If he received anything lower then an A in math though he was in huge trouble because I knew he was capable of the A. My daughter was capable of A's in nearly all her subjects. However I took into account she was taking college level courses and that they are alot harder then normal classes so if she got a B or a high c in one of those classes it was like getting an A or a high B in regular or honors classes at her school. Now my youngest son if he gets all C's that is good enough for me. He is the one who has been in special ed and struggles with completeing assignments on time. So basically what I am saying is I take into account each kids abilities and of course you know better your own daughters abilities...and then I go from there. I never rewarded them for getting good grades because to me a good grade in itself is a reward. It is something to be proud of and I never really punished for bad grades either unlesss like I said I knew it was something they could do better at.
 
I don't have much advice, my kids are still young and I joined the Army before I even completed HS. So, I never went to college. Sometimes I just wish kids came with an owners manual. (((hugs)))
 
Is she spending too much time with the BF and not concentrating on studies? I know that was my problem when I got out of hs and started college. Maybe time with the BF needs to be limited?
 
this too!! When my daughter started dating it was like her boyfriends became her everything and she neglected everything for them(she only dated one guy at a time but had a string of about five serious boyfriends in high school)
Is she spending too much time with the BF and not concentrating on studies? I know that was my problem when I got out of hs and started college. Maybe time with the BF needs to be limited?
 
Heather you are so right and I was totally one of those people that college was not for me(of coarse I didn't think the military was either and little did I know I would spend 20 years doing it!). She does have her sights set on a 4 year college to transfer to in Fall 2013, so I think she really wants to stay in college, but I do think I will give her the option. Like my DH has told her "Sam, by the time I was your age I had already been in the Navy for a year"....I do think she is kinda sad that all of her friends are kind of disbursed throughout the state and she hasn't really made alot of friends in college because she has only taken 2 classes on campus, but since her classes next year need to be 3/4 of the time on campus, it may help her braoden her friendships :)

aww... that first semester is sooooo HARD... and that's exactly why... all your friends go everywhere else and if she's not living on campus then it's difficult to make friends... I went to a community college and I seriously think that is part of the reason it wasn't right for me... because like you said, it's difficult to make friends if you aren't living on a campus... I think I'd be happy with her grades based on that fact alone... I bet she'll do much better when she's full time on a campus and living with other girls... for me, I do so much better in a community type environment... and it seems like she probably will too... it's sooo hard to do college "alone"

also, I might remind her that the full-time colleges are going to be looking at her grades and if they don't improve, she might lose her chance at going... I know it's harsh, but if that's a dream or goal for her, she needs to figure out a way to make it happen and it's not going to happen if she doesn't improve on her grades. Does she plan on taking more classes on campus in the fall? Maybe there is a club she can get involved in to meet other students?
 
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So she's mostly been taking online classes? That might be part of the problem. I always spent so much more time on classes I actually had to report to them online ones. When you've got an online class, you can "watch" a lecture but also be doing other thngs, not paying attention. I know you don't have to pay attention in person, but it's so much easier to just flake out without even realizing it with online classes.

Finding your place and deciding what you want to do is so hard. I'm 23, been married for a year and a half, have that college diploma and still don't really know where I want to be in the professional world. It stinks.
 
I had been considering offering to take classes myself to get my son to go to school - I won't be doing that now ;-)

I remember my first semester of college was SO hard, because I was used to just going to class in HS and being able to make good grades. The actually having to study things that were not covered in lecture was a big shock for me. Hopefully these grades are a little wake up call. Did she seem concerned by them?
 
Sit down and have a heart to heart with her. This is the beginning of the rest of her life and she needs to be an adult about it, and probably feels bad enough about her grades without a lecture. Talk to her about her hopes and dreams and about how she will improve things and become a real person (DH and I are always talking about ways that we will become real people, especially when I'm a worthless pregnant lump on the couch). If she needs suggestions on how to improve her college experience, read ahead.

One thing I wish I knew going into college was how important teachers' office hours are. My last two years I made new friends who I wish I had been friends with all along. I was terrified that office hours were a sign that I wasn't a good enough student (over-achiever here) and I really suffered because of it. Making good friends to do homework with made all the difference for me. Being in classes alone just doesn't work at all.

I went straight to a 4-year university (although I took it in 5 years because I waffled about what I would major in and took some business classes instead of my engineering classes). The semester I got 3 C's and a D just about killed me. I was literally up all night and had to watch "It's a Wonderful Life" to remind myself that I was still worth it. That's when I had friends who told me that "D is for degree" and who weren't serious about learning and blamed everything on how bad the teachers were, and convinced me that all of the classes are curved. I felt horrible when I got the grades that I knew I deserved, and knew that I had to figure things out to improve. Good, hard-working friends make all the difference, IMO. You need a network of friends in every class to study with. It's built-in in high school, at least it was for me in all of the honors and AP classes we were always studying together. It's hard, but it can work.

When I dated and married DH I actually did better in school because he was working for the same thing (a different branch of engineering, but we both had hard majors that involved a lot of outside work). Seeing how hard he worked made me want to be better so that I could be worthy of such an amazing man who has turned out to be a hard-working provider and father. The guys that I hung out with for the years before I met DH weren't as motivated and often convinced me to put of studying to go play with them. Amazing friends, but not what I was looking for.

That's what I learned, and I wish I would have made friends with those people earlier. It changed my life and I wish I could redo my degree. Actually, no, I don't want to go back to school, but I want other people to learn from my mistakes. The people who go to the teacher's office hours, the people who ask questions, and the group of people who look like an exclusive study group, those are the people to make friends with, and they are usually more than willing to be your friend.

BTW, I totally lost my scholarship that semester too, the one I got for being in the top 2% of my class in high school. It happens to the best of us. Remind her that everyone else is looking for friends in college too, and that friends you make in college are much longer-lasting than friends in high school. I just saw one of my old friends from college and wow I just haven't had good friends like I had in college since I left. I guess I need to put myself out more, eh?
 
My son did not do well his first year, wasn't sure it was for him, so he took a semester off. The deal was he had to work full time and have insurance and so he went to work in a warehouse. After a semester he was ready to go back to school and since he had already used up all my savings, he had to do it on his own. He figured out the loan stuff, choose the State U and still works part time to help finance it. IT has been my experience with my child that he appreciates things more if he has to pay for them. He is doing much better now. My biggest fear is that his degree, a BA in creative writing will mean he will live in my basement for the rest of his life. :D He wants to be a writer and while I encourage him, I wish he wanted to be a food scientist. The ones I work with are make 80,000 right out of college.
 
My biggest fear is that his degree, a BA in creative writing will mean he will live in my basement for the rest of his life. :D He wants to be a writer and while I encourage him, I wish he wanted to be a food scientist. The ones I work with are make 80,000 right out of college.
LOL I think is the fear all of us have. I'm not worried about my oldest - he is in computer engineering and shouldn't have a problem getting a job. My 2nd (HS senior) said he wanted to major in Psychology and I said..."um, no." I can't stop him if that's what he really wants to do, but I sure will give my opinion. ;)
 
LOL I think is the fear all of us have. I'm not worried about my oldest - he is in computer engineering and shouldn't have a problem getting a job. My 2nd (HS senior) said he wanted to major in Psychology and I said..."um, no." I can't stop him if that's what he really wants to do, but I sure will give my opinion. ;)

I think the problem isn't so much the degree in creative writing or psychology, but the focus on a career. I have friends with degrees in creative writing who are very successful, but they've combined their love of writing with something else that allows them to make a living. I also have friends with degrees in psychology who are doing well too, but again, they looked beyond the bachelor's degree and went into specialized fields.
 
I think the problem isn't so much the degree in creative writing or psychology, but the focus on a career. I have friends with degrees in creative writing who are very successful, but they've combined their love of writing with something else that allows them to make a living. I also have friends with degrees in psychology who are doing well too, but again, they looked beyond the bachelor's degree and went into specialized fields.

This was my thought, too. The key is for them to be focused on finding a career. They will only live in your basement forever if you let them. ;) There are lots of jobs for writers... not all are popular, fun, or high-paying but if they have a drive to get a career (or are forced to go out and support themselves) they will find a way to make money to support themselves.
 
This was my thought, too. The key is for them to be focused on finding a career. They will only live in your basement forever if you let them. ;) There are lots of jobs for writers... not all are popular, fun, or high-paying but if they have a drive to get a career (or are forced to go out and support themselves) they will find a way to make money to support themselves.

This is so true! And something I have explained to him. I've also let him know that mama is ready to empty her nest once he graduates. Sure I will give him time to find a job, but once that is done, I'm pushing him out the door. lol
 
Umm you guys worried about your kids my youngest wants to design video games. Seriously! I know this is a real job but I cannot get him to understand that in order to make this work as a job you HAVE to buckle down and work really hard. He does not get it. Like I said he is a bright kid. He is engaged in learning just not actually doing the work itself. So I totally worry about that too.
 
You never know he may write the next great American novel and be able to buy you a big beautiful house and live wonderfully for the rest of his life :)

This is so true! And something I have explained to him. I've also let him know that mama is ready to empty her nest once he graduates. Sure I will give him time to find a job, but once that is done, I'm pushing him out the door. lol
 
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