PrettyScrappy.com: A Statement From Our Team of Designers

[kaylaugh]

I started this thread about an hour ago and have been sick to my stomach and mad as h&ll! There's another whole level of responsibility when you call your entire store 'S4H-friendly'. It's more than a label to grab customers, it's a pledge to support and respect the time and talent of other digital artists. They have put not just all those designer's reputations in jeopardy, but also any artist who creates layouts using their kits! This is BY FAR the most UNfriendly thing a store can do to their S4H customers!

Thank you to all of the former-PS designers who have removed yourselves or expressed the desire to...and to Robin for making this public in such a professional way.

It is frightening to doubt the integrity of a designer whose products could have been used for a client's project. It reinforces my desire to learn to design for myself so that I can create truly custom artwork for my clients and remove this level of risk. The reality in my situation though is that I will need to continue to purchase kits to build my business. I'm pretty much sticking with SSD for now though...and a handful of other S4H friendly designers in whose integrity I have confidence.

This is all very sad for the digi community as a whole and unfortunately I doubt very much that those involved are truly finished. It's just time to change names again and attempt to do a better job of reinventing themselves. If only it were as easy for them to change their moral character as it is to change their online identities!

Kristi Wood

 

[kaylaugh]

I'm still debating throwing out the whole ADSR prize kit but thought I'd at least identify the designers first. The store was shut down before I could get in there and decipher the filename acronyms. All I could get from this thread was Tammy's and Teri's file designations:

alevtina (Alevtina)
Aveziur (Eva Ruiz)
bsd Bubble Scraps Designs (Mye)
LMS LauraMarie Scraps
pdc Polka Dot Chicks (Tammy and Shelby)
ttomj Teri's Thing-O-My-Jigs (Teri Mayo)
ic Inkin' Creations
OneofaKindDS (Christine Schultz)
TTS Totally Twisted Scraps

**update**
I have been able to identify or find blogs of most of the designers that contributed to the ADSR prize kit and can't find anything relating them to the situation with Robyn and Julie. Robyn doesn't seem to have been involved in contributing to the prize collab under any design name and Julie's only involvement was owning a host site. I would certainly not throw away all the hard work put into the kit by honest designers because they were unfortunately associated with a couple of dishonest designers. I'm still sorting out some TOU questions but I'm fairly satisfied with the integrity of the store's ADSR collaboration kit's contributors.**

Kristi

 

[Sue Setiadji]

Sheesh what a mess!!

Firstly, Congrats on your efforts to handle this professionally Robin - what I love about SSD is that integrity abides here as does compassion! Sorry that this had to be dealt with at all in the first place and with such difficulty at the end. So glad your at the helm tho and willing to go into bat when its warranted.

Sorry to the designers here who got burned by this you are all so unworthy of such treatment - your the best!!!

Always there is far more collateral damage than we ever perceive in the beginning - so sorry for all of those innocently and genuinely supporting that store who have been burned by this! Hope you can find a better place with the integrity levels you deserve.

 

[chloe]

This is deeply wrong, and I'm sorry you have to go through this!! ((((hugs))))

 

[adrianka]

I see the story took another turn... I'm sad for those designers from PrettyScrappy whose files were deleted just like that, without warning. Another proof that the owner is not a fair person. First to back up a thief, then this.

This must be *so* unpleasant to everybody directly involved, but at least Robin and the designer girls have found out (or ratere, had re-confirmed) how much support they have in the community. Even from the designers at PS that got into this mess innocently and ended up being wronged by the owner.

*hugs to all*

 

[tw1717]

I'm still debating throwing out the whole ADSR prize kit but thought I'd at least identify the designers first. The store was shut down before I could get in there and decipher the filename acronyms. All I could get from this thread was Tammy's and Teri's file designations:

alevtina
Aveziur
bsd
LMS
pdc Polka Dot Chicks (Tammy and Shelby)
ttomj Teri's Thing-O-My-Jigs (Teri Mayo)
ic
OneofaKindDS
TTS

can anyone identify the others?
(I hate to throw out perfectly usable and cute stuff if I don't have to! Esp. that alpha...who's One of a Kind DS?)

Kristi

Kristi, I don't know who the other designers are by the initials but I am going to ask Tracie@BlueMaigeDesigns as she USED to do the backups for PS and had been there longer (and on various CT's ) at PS. I will let you know what I find out for you.

It is a shame that all this happened....

 

[terimayo]

I'm still debating throwing out the whole ADSR prize kit but thought I'd at least identify the designers first. The store was shut down before I could get in there and decipher the filename acronyms. All I could get from this thread was Tammy's and Teri's file designations:

alevtina
Aveziur
bsd
LMS
pdc Polka Dot Chicks (Tammy and Shelby)
ttomj Teri's Thing-O-My-Jigs (Teri Mayo)
ic
OneofaKindDS
TTS

can anyone identify the others?
(I hate to throw out perfectly usable and cute stuff if I don't have to! Esp. that alpha...who's One of a Kind DS?)

Kristi

TTS is Totally Twisted Scraps
OneofakindDS was a fairly new desiger there
if it was a miss print on LMS that would be LNS and was Julie.. I dont know who LMS could have been

Hope this helps... there should have been tous in that kit so maybe you can check that out too..... T

 

[kaylaugh]

All I got was a single graphic store tou but no individual ones from each designer. That's one of the reasons I'm scrambling now to tag everything. I can usually sift and sort through the tou's and figure it out...cross referencing the store's designer list as I go if needed. This time I'm short on tou's and there's no list online anymore. Thanks so much for the help!

Kristi

 

[terimayo]

TTS is Totally Twisted Scraps
OneofakindDS was a fairly new desiger there
if it was a miss print on LMS that would be LNS and was Julie.. I dont know who LMS could have been

Hope this helps... there should have been tous in that kit so maybe you can check that out too..... T

OH The first two gals are foreign designers if i recall and the LMS... that could have been a guy designer there.. laughing monkey designs i think.... he did more CU things.. clipart type things....

 

[tabby]

I used to design as well as do QC for the store and these are the ones I can identify. HTH's. {{Hugs}} to everyone.

ic - inkin' creations
tts- totally twisted scraps
bsd- bubblescrap designs
Aveziur - evqaveziur

 

[modernjune]

OH The first two gals are foreign designers if i recall and the LMS... that could have been a guy designer there.. laughing monkey designs i think.... he did more CU things.. clipart type things....

no he was fighting monkeys i think the logo had a monkey with his fists up....LMS? I can't think of who that would be....

 

[bluemaige]

no he was fighting monkeys i think the logo had a monkey with his fists up....LMS? I can't think of who that would be....

LMS is Laura Marie Scraps

Let me know if someone has not been identified as I just backed up the store two days before it was shut down. For that matter, if you know someone who did not receive product and has an invoice I will be happy to make sure they get what they purchased.

 

[Stace]

I can't believe the blatant lack or morals and ethics in this whole thing. It's sad and I'm so glad that the entire community was made aware so that we can watch out for the designers that we love and support.

 

[Giseli Freitas]

I'm here again just to give big (((HUGS))) to the honest PS designers and say I'm so sorry you're having to deal w/ this mess!

 

[apupplo]

I want to offer my apologies for all the trouble that SSD designers have had to go through. Unfortunately I just returned from vacation to find this mess. I have been with PS since its conception and know that this is definately not what the shop was about.... it has changed hands a lot and I think that was just the beginning of the end for the shop. I have debated for months to leave the shop and I was actually going to do it after my "spotlight" month of April but I guess I get to do it early. I have been focusing my efforts on my other 2 shops for months now but have just always felt that PS was my home since Casey (the orginal owner and creator) gave me my start.

Again I am saddened and sickened by the actions of both of the ladies but so proud of you Robin for standing up!

I will, as my co-designers did, offer you to email me if you did not recieve something you ordered from me.... [email protected]

 

[msbrad]

My only connection was...I did Quality Control work (for designers kits there), and the "praise" team for the gallery.
But---I did not have any of her kits.

Many lovely designers and members were there.

I hate when sad things happen.
m

 

[Mandy Reger]

um...WOW is all I have to say!!! I am appalled by the store owner's way of handling it! WOW! So sad some people are like this

 

[dylabel]

I am a designer at another site but have purchased items here before and had to let you know that I recently purchased a cu product from Double Dutch Designs for commercial use that looks exactly like the said Doctor Doctor templates. I didn't read through the entire post so I don't know if this has been brought to your attention or not.
Here is the preview of the product that I purchased

They look almost identical and of course are out of bounds for use for me...again I just wanted to show it just in case it hadn't been seen.

 

[Jengerbread88]

I am a designer at another site but have purchased items here before and had to let you know that I recently purchased a cu product from Double Dutch Designs for commercial use that looks exactly like the said Doctor Doctor templates. I didn't read through the entire post so I don't know if this has been brought to your attention or not.
Here is the preview of the product that I purchased

They look almost identical and of course are out of bounds for use for me...again I just wanted to show it just in case it hadn't been seen.

Here's what I found when googling Double Dutch Designs:

From the bio: Who are we?
We are two good friends who love to scrap--okay we are addicted! How fun to work together!

Also, looks like the names on the header are Brooke and Kiki.

 

[dylabel]

I actually sent an email as ther TOU were confusing - stating commercial use but in the attached TOU it stated otherwise. I got an email back from a Chelcee stating in fact they were for commercial use...frustrating to know that sometimes even a TOU means nothing, almost impossible to keep things your own it seems.

Just seems odd!

 

[triciacurtis]

Yes, Brooke and Kiki I think have not been at Pretty Scrappy for months, they are in no way involved with Julie and Robyn that I know of.

 

[serenebyrw]

I am also sad to say that I have been associated with PS as a designer for the last few months.
I am appalled to see how the owner and the designer handled the situation.

I was completely unaware of all this when I received the email about the store closing. As soon as I received the email I tried to access both my Xcart and FTP accounts and I found them closed. As all my fellow designers wrote before me, I am wondering what's going to happen to all my PU and CU products.

I don't even know what to say. This is all just so sad. :-( Hugs to all hurt in this mess.

 

[serenebyrw]

PS:
Some more info:

I also sell at another stores, so if anyone lost any of my products links, email me at [email protected] and I will send you a coupon from another store where I sell.

As to the identities of some people mentioned in this thread:

IC does stand for Inkin' Creations. I can absolutely vouch for this designer, as she is my dear friend and neighbor and she creates her own designs or credits CU products.

Double Dutch Desings are currently selling at the Digital Scrap Cafe and their names are Brooke and Kiki.

 

[kaylaugh]

Thank You to everyone who helped me identify the designers. I've updated the list and the situation in my earlier post. With the shifty name-changing that was going on, I just had to be certain Robyn didn't contribute to that kit under any name so all unidentified ID's had to be accounted for.

Kristi

 

[serenebyrw]

Thank You to everyone who helped me identify the designers. I've updated the list and the situation in my earlier post. With the shifty name-changing that was going on, I just had to be certain Robyn didn't contribute to that kit under any name so all unidentified ID's had to be accounted for.

Kristi

YW. Glad to be of help.

 

[Robin Carlton]

I am a designer at another site but have purchased items here before and had to let you know that I recently purchased a cu product from Double Dutch Designs for commercial use that looks exactly like the said Doctor Doctor templates. I didn't read through the entire post so I don't know if this has been brought to your attention or not.
Here is the preview of the product that I purchased

They look almost identical and of course are out of bounds for use for me...again I just wanted to show it just in case it hadn't been seen.

This is the CU set of tools that Julie told us Robyn was "purely inspired by" when I wrote her about the similarities between Doctor Doctor and Libby's kit. As far as we know and like Tricia mentioned this CU team is not involved with Julie and Robyn at all. In fact, it would be interesting to know if Robyn purchased this item and had rights to use them in the first place. Hopefully she was on the up and up in some situations.

 

[ColleenSwerb]

I just wanted to come in and give all the good and honest PS designers a big hug. I'm so sorry for all that you're being put through as well.

Just a thought too, for the PS designers. I would REALLY keep an eye on things in the future as far as your own products are concerned. Since many of you didn't get to delete your FTP, there's no telling what might happen in the future. :thumbdown:

 

[newfiemountiewife]

Just a thought too, for the PS designers. I would REALLY keep an eye on things in the future as far as your own products are concerned. Since many of you didn't get to delete your FTP, there's no telling what might happen in the future. :thumbdown:

This has really been bothering me as well, since you didn't get to delete your own stuff, goodness knows where it is now.

I'm so sorry to all of you

 

[serenebyrw]

This is the CU set of tools that Julie told us Robyn was "purely inspired by" when I wrote her about the similarities between Doctor Doctor and Libby's kit. As far as we know and like Tricia mentioned this CU team is not involved with Julie and Robyn at all. In fact, it would be interesting to know if Robyn purchased this item and had rights to use them in the first place. Hopefully she was on the up and up in some situations.

I do know Brooke. I'll check with her.

 

[Bubblescrap Designs]

I am not a member here until a couple of minutes ago and thought I needed to pop in.

I used to design there and left last February. I had a different reason for leaving. I thank my CT manager for bringing this to my attention and I am proud of my former co-designers there for taking action.

To all others who are looking out for me, yes, I own the code BSD (Bubblescrap Designs) and if there is anything I need to do or act upon, please feel free to let me know. This is a sad thing to happen to SSD designers and I salute your owner, Robin for her professionalism in handling this matter.

When I left though, i was informed that they needed to retain my kits for a month so that customers can still download what they purchased. I had only 2 purchases when I left so I thought why that long but it never really occurred to me that something fishy is going on. Now, I am unsure if my kits were really removed.

 

[MommaTrish]

Oh Gosh, that whole situation just sucks! I know nothing about Pretty Scrappy, but the way they've handled this is deplorable.

 

[MommaTrish]

This is the CU set of tools that Julie told us Robyn was "purely inspired by" when I wrote her about the similarities between Doctor Doctor and Libby's kit. As far as we know and like Tricia mentioned this CU team is not involved with Julie and Robyn at all. In fact, it would be interesting to know if Robyn purchased this item and had rights to use them in the first place. Hopefully she was on the up and up in some situations.

I work with Chelcee and just mentioned this to her.

 

[mommabear0408]

This is just terrible!!!

Just clicked over... looks like their store is offline "temporarily for maintenance"

 

[Vivayne]

She's not the only store

Well, back in Nov of 09 www.digitalfreebies.com decided to go designerless and only Retrodiva would be designing. None of the designers got their last pays. For me it was at least $150. We have waited and waited. I have written emails to the owner Tracy Lykins, only to be ignored. Still not sure if she intends to do the right thing and pay us all, but at this point it does look grim. None of the designers has said anything that I know of, we all were too classy and busy to bother, but this has been a real eye opener.

Thanks for taking the time to stand up and do the right thing!

 

[brooklyndesigns]

I am Brooke of Double Dutch Designs. I have been following this, and did notice that our CU templates were used.

We are in no way affiliated with Scrapper Girl. We did, for a short period, work for pretty scrappy, and we have not been working there for quite a while.

We are working to figure out Scrapper Girl's last name to see if she even purchased the product. That would be interesting to learn. Robin, we have sent you an email, to see if you know. We will then be looking through our records.

It sucks that our name is being brought into this as we work very hard to create commercial and personal use items. If she did not purchase these, then I for one, will be extremely disappointed. I don't know what kind of a person would take someone else's work without paying for it.

Julie at Pretty Scrappy, should have handled this differently to say the least.