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DawnMarch 03-21-2022 11:15 AM

Getting rid of daylight savings?
 
A bill unanimously passed the US Senate last week to get rid of daylight savings time in the US and be on daylight savings time all year.

I am in AZ where we do not even do daylight savings, so I am all in favor of getting rid of it everywhere. But, I would prefer standard time as the default rather than daylight savings since that would put AZ where it belongs -- on Mountain time rather than Pacific.

What do you think? Do you want to get rid of daylight savings and changing the clocks twice a year?

KristinCB 03-21-2022 11:21 AM

I'm in canada but i'd want to get rid of DST and be on standard permanently.. if it's DST year round in the winter our sunrise wouldn't be until 9:30 am LOL

Robin Carlton 03-21-2022 11:28 AM

All for it! I hate the time change!

LynnZant 03-21-2022 11:53 AM

I'm so old and have been doing this so long that it doesn't bother me either way. And, changing the clocks has become so much easier with the digital ones updating automatically.

AmieN1 03-21-2022 12:00 PM

Yes! Hate it! Although I agree with Kristin- the crazy late sunrise is a bit much...

carrie1977 03-21-2022 12:08 PM

I'm so ok with the time never changing.

HavaDrPepper 03-21-2022 12:19 PM

As someone that hates the darkness at 4:30 at night, I hate standard time. I'm also not a morning person so having all the daylight at that end of the day doesn't work for me.

When I worked at a CPA firm 25 years ago, I went to work in the dark and came home in the dark during the winter. That led to me having depression (stress of the job didn't help either). I needed medication to survive.

After changing jobs where my hours changed and the amount of stress went down, I was able to get off the medications. I still only had about an hour of sunlight when I got off work so the winters were long. Even now that I am retired I still get depressed during the winter although it is mainly the month of December. It just gets too dark too early in the evening.

I've also been changing clocks for too many years to remember so no big deal.

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A bill unanimously passed the US Senate last week to get rid of daylight savings time in the US and be on daylight savings time all year.

I am in AZ where we do not even do daylight savings, so I am all in favor of getting rid of it everywhere. But, I would prefer standard time as the default rather than daylight savings since that would put AZ where it belongs -- on Mountain time rather than Pacific.

What do you think? Do you want to get rid of daylight savings and changing the clocks twice a year?
This bill is not getting rid of daylight savings, it is to make the whole country unified in all states will be using daylight savings time. So for you in Arizona, you will have to change your clocks that one time and you will still be in Mountain Time Zone.

jaye 03-21-2022 12:21 PM

I kind of like the time change.....yes I'm weird, I know.

I am on Eastern time though so I wouldn't be in the same boat as Kirstin.

Kiana 03-21-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HavaDrPepper (Post 1063092098)
This bill is not getting rid of daylight savings, it is to make the whole country unified in all states will be using daylight savings time. So for you in Arizona, you will have to change your clocks that one time and you will still be in Mountain Time Zone.


So which one do we keep...the "spring forward" or the "fall back" (I believe the "fall back" is the DST time?

Does anyone know when this would be official?


On the original question, yes I'm all for it ...either way, even though I'd prefer to keep the "spring forward" time settings.

Pachimac 03-21-2022 01:56 PM

I want the time when we have the most sunlight and sunset isn't until like 7:00-7:30 - which one is that?

MamaBee 03-21-2022 02:23 PM

Ugh - I don't care. haha. I just really really hate the "spring forward" one... I'm still so tired and can't get used to the hour ahead. Winter is depressing enough with all the cloudy days... does it matter what time you will see the sun?

Cherylny 03-21-2022 03:14 PM

I would love it if we'd stay on it!

JillW 03-21-2022 03:16 PM

I'd prefer not to have to change back and forth ...

JillW 03-21-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiana (Post 1063092106)
So which one do we keep...the "spring forward" or the "fall back" (I believe the "fall back" is the DST time?

Does anyone know when this would be official?


On the original question, yes I'm all for it ...either way, even though I'd prefer to keep the "spring forward" time settings.

I think I saw a blurb that said it wouldn't be until sometime in 2023 :)

HavaDrPepper 03-21-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiana (Post 1063092106)
So which one do we keep...the "spring forward" or the "fall back" (I believe the "fall back" is the DST time?

Does anyone know when this would be official?


On the original question, yes I'm all for it ...either way, even though I'd prefer to keep the "spring forward" time settings.

Spring forward is DST. So right now those that observe the time change actually spend more time during the year in DST than the Standard Time. Time sprung forward on March 13. It doesn't fall back until November 6.

Many years ago, DST was from April to October so about 6 months.

Also, there are some states that have already passed legislation to move to permanent DST but they need Congressional approval to take effect. Several other states are considering it.

Kiana 03-21-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HavaDrPepper (Post 1063092128)
Spring forward is DST. So right now those that observe the time change actually spend more time during the year in DST than the Standard Time. Time sprung forward on March 13. It doesn't fall back until November 6.

Many years ago, DST was from April to October so about 6 months.

Also, there are some states that have already passed legislation to move to permanent DST but they need Congressional approval to take effect. Several other states are considering it.

Ahh so we'd stay on the "spring" time. Ok......
I really just want to stop changing back and forth. lol

rach3975 03-21-2022 10:20 PM

I'm all for not changing the clocks, but I think they made the wrong call in which to keep. I live in an area with no street lights. With the time change, my kids walk to the (far) bus stop in pitch blackness for a few weeks right before and right after we change the clocks. I hate that, but one of the things that makes it tolerable is that during those stretches we tend not to have ice and snow yet. Now ask me how I feel about my kids spending most of their school year walking to the bus in the darkness, hours before sunrise while roads are icy and the sidewalks are too snowy or icy to use so they have to walk in the street for stretches...

I've also read some articles by sleep experts saying that as bad as the time change is for us, the move to permanent DST would be even worse. Apparently it leads to a mismatch between our circadian rhythms--which are more closely linked to daylight and darkness--and our daily schedules. They predict more sleep problems and other illnesses if we adopt permanent DST instead of permanent Standard Time.

With all the gridlock our government has been experiencing for years, I'm baffled that THIS is what the Senate chose to pass unanimously with no substantial discussion first!

HavaDrPepper 03-21-2022 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rach3975 (Post 1063092161)
I've also read some articles by sleep experts saying that as bad as the time change is for us, the move to permanent DST would be even worse. Apparently it leads to a mismatch between our circadian rhythms--which are more closely linked to daylight and darkness--and our daily schedules. They predict more sleep problems and other illnesses if we adopt permanent DST instead of permanent Standard Time.

No matter which one they would choose to stick with, there will be people that have issues with their "circadian rhythms". I'm one of them that has trouble during standard time but am good in daylight savings time.

joelsgirl 03-21-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rach3975 (Post 1063092161)
With all the gridlock our government has been experiencing for years, I'm baffled that THIS is what the Senate chose to pass unanimously with no substantial discussion first!

This! I don't care either way, but I wish they'd pick the more important matters to work on. It's like how they passed a bill banning the sale of Russian vodka. I read that it represents like 2% of vodka sales in the US, plus, those who are really affected are the store owners who already have it in stock and can't sell it now.

bcgal00 03-21-2022 11:09 PM

I'm ok with keeping it the same all year round, don't really care which they pick, just stick with all the same for everyone all the time.

knittingbec 03-22-2022 03:36 AM

It would mean over a month of 11:00-11:15 a.m. sunrises in Anchorage (December 9 to Jan 12), so....no thank you!

And yes, it seems like there are bigger fish to fry...

nesser1981 03-22-2022 06:57 AM

I wish it was daylight earlier in the morning if I’m being honest.

We didn’t have it when I lived in Japan or the 6 months I was stationed in Arizona. I never noticed a difference, but that was 20ish years ago. ��

nesser1981 03-22-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by knittingbec (Post 1063092173)
It would mean over a month of 11:00-11:15 a.m. sunrises in Anchorage (December 9 to Jan 12), so....no thank you!

And yes, it seems like there are bigger fish to fry...

That’s a hard thing to adjust to. I worked 12 hour rotating shifts, so sometimes if no a month without seeing the sun in the winter.

Karen_ 03-22-2022 01:18 PM

I don't even know what to think about this. I do know that the spring forward time change always messes me up for about a week, but I sure do like the extra time in the evening with the sun shining! In the middle of the summer though it's 10:00 pm and still light outside though, so that's kinda weird. We have movie nights in our town and they can't start the movies until after 10:00 in July.

I totally agree that it's bizarre that this is the issue the politicians could agree on. Sheesh!

bienejen 03-22-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinCB (Post 1063092090)
I'm in canada but i'd want to get rid of DST and be on standard permanently.. if it's DST year round in the winter our sunrise wouldn't be until 9:30 am LOL

I'm with you on this. In December our sunrise wouldn't be until 9am Yuck!

StacyLynn 03-22-2022 01:41 PM

I'm not sure yet. At first I was excited...I hate it getting so dark so early in the winter. And I hate the time change cause it messes up my littles schedules for a week twice a year. But, the more I think about it, I am not sure how I will feel about the later sunrise yet....

lovely1m 03-22-2022 04:09 PM

I don't care which one goes, but I'd like to get rid of one.

CarolynK 03-23-2022 02:54 AM

I've lived in QLD (no DLS) and NSW (has DLS) I much prefer life without it, especially when you have children who are sensitive to their routines being changed.

Stefanie 03-23-2022 03:26 AM

Living in South Africa we don't change the clocks at all. In summer we have sunlight from about 5am to 8pm and in Winter from 7am til 6pm. So we are golden either way.
Interesting to read everyone's feelings though. I can't imagine it only getting light after 9am.

becca1976 03-24-2022 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefanie (Post 1063092236)
Living in South Africa we don't change the clocks at all. In summer we have sunlight from about 5am to 8pm and in Winter from 7am til 6pm. So we are golden either way.
Interesting to read everyone's feelings though. I can't imagine it only getting light after 9am.

Living in West Africa (Cameroon) is similar to S.A. Our daylight hours don't even shift as much as yours do. When it comes to calling family in the states it is much easier to be on the "spring forward" time as our schedules match up a bit better having only 5 hours difference. I do think it would be nice not to have to worry about changing clocks in the US, though.

LJSDesigns 03-24-2022 07:50 AM

I would be good with sticking to one time, for sure. I prefer the "spring forward" if I had to choose, but would probably be okay with either one.

As to the politicians, they chose this one because it was low hanging fruit and easy to pick. I think they are afraid to work on the bigger issues or maybe they just know that there is no way they are ever going to agree, so they figure why waste their time. I honestly think the two parties are so divided that getting anything done is a mammoth effort that a lot of them don't want to expend.

JennNtheBoys 03-25-2022 08:13 AM

I personally like having the longer days in the summer, and having as much light as possible in the winter. We haven't noticed the time change for years.... the only clocks we have are our phones and computers and they all automatically change for us so clocks are never messed up, alarms are never messed up...... in fact, it was a few days after this years change before any of us even knew it happened, and that was only because someone outside our circle had mentioned it. lol

rach3975 03-25-2022 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JennNtheBoys (Post 1063092406)
I personally like having the longer days in the summer, and having as much light as possible in the winter.

When I first heard about the bill passing I thought that I liked the idea of not changing but that I'd rather keep ST instead of DST. But the more I've thought about it since, the more I agree with you. I think there was a good reason that we started changing the clocks, and if we eliminate the change people are going to realize that the week or 2 of adjustment weren't as inconvenient as the morning or evening darkness we end up with instead.


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